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[BerkaZerka]

I think i'd be willing to accept it anyway as long as you're fine with it only lasting as many turns as the number of successes you roll, however.

Seems fair to me 

[Drakilian]

Ghouls can only go up to 5 in anything. But vampire blood bonded slaves work too.

[Drakilian]

Oh, dammit, the possessions aren't here. Can you list the ones you wanted again?

[Forge]

Ghouls can only go up to 5 in anything. But vampire blood bonded slaves work too.

Now, very important Q here:

Can you pass blood bonds? The example would be (An I have no intent of doing this) Aman has bound a Ghoul who I sneak blood too over 3 nights. Does that now bind the Ghoul to me and override Aman's bond?

[BerkaZerka]

Oh, dammit, the possessions aren't here. Can you list the ones you wanted again?

I'll see if I can find it.

[BerkaZerka]

Lavishly Furnished Transylvanian Manor in Town, Hunting Lodge (not too far from civilization), Riding Horse w/ Fancy Saddle, Four Horse Carriage, Eight Horse Salt-Wagon, Warehouse in Town, River Barge, Rowboat, Favorite Tavern with Reserved Seating.

Great Swords, Chain Armor, Knight Armor, Various Shields, Flails & Morning Stars.

[BerkaZerka]

I'm still cutting and pasting all this stuff into the character sheet.

[Drakilian]

Now, very important Q here:

Can you pass blood bonds? The example would be (An I have no intent of doing this) Aman has bound a Ghoul who I sneak blood too over 3 nights. Does that now bind the Ghoul to me and override Aman's bond?

Nope. Someone (vampire or human) can only be bound completely to a single person. The most you could get to someone who already has a full blood oath is a 2 Rating bond.

[Forge]

Nope. Someone (vampire or human) can only be bound completely to a single person. The most you could get to someone who already has a full blood oath is a 2 Rating bond.

Darn... I was thinking I could use sneakyness and sweet blood to bind people to then sell to BZ so he could have their bloodbonds to call on...

[Bo]

Darn... I was thinking I could use sneakyness and sweet blood to bind people to then sell to BZ so he could have their bloodbonds to call on...

Already have the sweet blood perk. Gonna use the hell out of it (also, look out all you allies who don't actually know about my trait <-<)

[Sethaniel]

I thought we were supposed to be all about trusting each other in this game. :p XD

[Drakilian]

Already have the sweet blood perk. Gonna use the hell out of it (also, look out all you allies who don't actually know about my trait <-<)

He can have it too.

Also, not hard at all to blood bond people here - if you want you could beat them up or drain them into unconsciousness and keep feeding them blood until they're permanently bound. Sweet blood is to make sure they don't know about it.

Vampires simply don't eat (and if they did, they would notice the taste of blood).

[Bo]

So slightly harder to blood bond forge than drugging wine then <-<. Don't worry forge, one day you'll be mine - and your little Croc too!

Boot for real though can I just start drugging wine to mortals at art galleries and gain a rabble of fanatics?

[Drakilian]

Yep, though you'd have to be careful that your blood doesn't get too diluted (in which case it would have no effect) and that no one notices you bleeding into their drinks (obviously).

[Drakilian]

Oh, and if you are known as a vampire, don't expect mortals to willingly eat/drink your food anyway XD

[Bo]

Yep, though you'd have to be careful that your blood doesn't get too diluted (in which case it would have no effect) and that no one notices you bleeding into their drinks (obviously).

Who knows what happens at these dark aged parties <-<

[Forge]

Oh, and if you are known as a vampire, don't expect mortals to willingly eat/drink your food anyway XD

Silly Drak, you don't drug them at your own party, you do it at someone else's!

Ps need to know how long is vamp blood viable for once out of the body?

[Drakilian]

Silly Drak, you don't drug them at your own party, you do it at someone else's!

Ps need to know how long is vamp blood viable for once out of the body?

It spoils at the same rate as normal blood, unless you have a blood pouch (enchanted artifact that preserves blood).

[Forge]

It spoils at the same rate as normal blood, unless you have a blood pouch (enchanted artifact that preserves blood).

Lame, no filling q small keg and putting it into a basement then

[BerkaZerka]

Why am I carrying not one, but 2 shields? haha!

[Sethaniel]

So slightly harder to blood bond forge than drugging wine then <-<. Don't worry forge, one day you'll be mine - and your little Croc too!

Boot for real though can I just start drugging wine to mortals at art galleries and gain a rabble of fanatics?

There's no such thing as art galleries in 1198! XD

[Drakilian]

Why am I carrying not one, but 2 shields? haha!

Because you can! You can get rid of one if you'd like, but you said you had a variety of shields, so I gave you the only two types available.

[Bo]

There's no such thing as art galleries in 1198! XD

Good point. I'm saying gallery for lack of a better word. A viewing would probably be better, honestly. Toreador are supposed to hold those fairly often anyway.

[Forge]

Good point. I'm saying gallery for lack of a better word. A viewing would probably be better, honestly. Toreador are supposed to hold those fairly often anyway.

They would have galleries displaying their art and host eachother (those of nonble standing) to show off and pose

[Bo]

They would have galleries displaying their art and host eachother (those of noble standing) to show off and pose

Yeah that's why I included a "gallery" room in Sylvian's haven. He should host parties every now and again over the century's if that's allowed in the gameplay. I'm assuming the Coterie would be invited (well, except for your character, Forge).

[Forge]

Yeah that's why I included a "gallery" room in Sylvian's haven. He should host parties every now and again over the century's if that's allowed in the gameplay. I'm assuming the Coterie would be invited (well, except for your character, Forge).

I can look pretty for a few hours each day with some prep time actually so long as the illusion holds.

[Drakilian]

Enough successes on a Mask of a thousand faces roll can make you pretty as can be

[Forge]

Enough successes on a Mask of a thousand faces roll can make you pretty as can be

Do extended casts help like in mage or do I just keep trying again/use will power?

[Drakilian]

No extended rolls for disciplines unless explicitly stated.

[BerkaZerka]

For my second Wits Specialty I want Steeple to have a bonus to detecting when he is being lied to, tricked, or played for a fool.

[Drakilian]

I've always considered that to be a Perception or Manipulation/subterfuge roll rather than a Wits roll (I mean, a liar knows lies right?). There's no actual defined way to roll for lie detecting (if there is it is a very well-kept secret, and I would treasure knowledge of it highly).

[Sethaniel]

To detect whether or not someone is being deceptive, the person trying to sense deception rolls Perception + Empathy (difficulty 6) vs. the target's Manipulation + Subterfuge (difficulty 6). No willpower spends are allowed on either side.  This is a simple yes-or-no, no nuance or in between. If you were telling anything less than the complete and honest truth, they detect deception from you, but not what part of your statement or why it is deceptive.

Empathy is resisted by subterfuge. To use empathy to try and perceive other people's emotions, it is a contested roll between the user's Perception + Empathy (difficulty 6) vs. the target's Manipulation + Subterfuge (difficulty 6), no willpower spends allowed on either side. If the user can only hear the person's voice, or only see them without hearing them, the Empathy roll is made at difficulty 8.
Just one success (minus your target's successes) garners just their most general emotional state. More successes can determine a few reasonable details (he's nervous vs. he got nervous when you brought up the Prince).

[Drakilian]

Woooo!

[Sethaniel]

right now, steeple's sheet says his languages are "praugish, jewish, and transylvanian."

[BerkaZerka]

right now, steeple's sheet says his languages are "praugish, jewish, and transylvanian."

That's what he calls them haha!  Feel free to fill out the appropriate euphemisms:

Praugish =
Jewish =
Transylvanian =

[Not Aman]

Jewish would be Yiddish; ha ha.

[BerkaZerka]

So, beside combat reflexes, what are wits good for?

[Drakilian]

You know, i'll be honest, i'm not sure.

[Drakilian]

I mean, other than for specific rolls needed for disicplines, Wits is sketchy in terms of making it known when you're supposed to roll it.

[Drakilian]

I think you might use it for certain dodge or stealth rolls in place of Dexterity, but i'm not sure which.

[Sethaniel]

So, beside combat reflexes, what are wits good for?

Not just in combat, but anytime you need to think quickly.  Wits also = creativity in a lot of places.

Dex+Stealth is for "are you physically capable of sneaking"
Wits+Stealth is for "can you see how to avoid the guards?"

Wits goes with dodge in ambushes, or other situations of surprise/caught off guard.

[BerkaZerka]

So a Wits Specialty might be like Lightning Reflexes? Or Hard to Surprise?

If so, I'll take Hard to Surprise.

[BerkaZerka]

Also, being paranoid about the 'businessmen' out to get him, Steeple will have buried a variety of hidden cache's throughout the region.

Caches would contain gold and silver coins mostly, but also a few pieces of jewelry and the occasional weapon, piece of armor, or fancy children's toy.

Mostly, I'm doing this so that Steeple still has a plausible reason for high Resources once we get to the modern age, being able to pose as a treasure hunter to recover rare coins and artifacts from ancient times.

[Forge]

Ok most awesome idea I just had... Completly due to your burying of resources and posing as a treasure hunter.

I assume at least part way through the story, like the late 1600 or early 1700 when plundering other civilizations gets popular and you start hiring slaves archaeological digging teams you will have people at your disposal not only willing to dig huge holes in the ground, but do so with a great cover reason AND they are mostly forgotten once they stop cos no-one cares about a hole that didn't turn up any artifacts.

so you have them dig in 3 areas, two bring up hidden stashes of gold, jewelry etc. The 3rd you get them to keep digging a tunnel into a hill, then dig out a cavern inside. Then declare that Maurice told you it was too bad and someone got there first and leave.

Heldric and a couple of the others can then move in and turn it into a cool underground base Just by adding a door a decorating a bit...

[BerkaZerka]

Hey, I'm game haha!

[Drakilian]

So a Wits Specialty might be like Lightning Reflexes? Or Hard to Surprise?

If so, I'll take Hard to Surprise.

You already chose yours though XD

[Drakilian]

Also, being paranoid about the 'businessmen' out to get him, Steeple will have buried a variety of hidden cache's throughout the region.

Caches would contain gold and silver coins mostly, but also a few pieces of jewelry and the occasional weapon, piece of armor, or fancy children's toy.

Mostly, I'm doing this so that Steeple still has a plausible reason for high Resources once we get to the modern age, being able to pose as a treasure hunter to recover rare coins and artifacts from ancient times.

Go ahead and edit that into your resources expanded background anytime you'd like then.

[BerkaZerka]

You already chose yours though XD

Thought I got 2? But OK. I'll stick with the Combat Reflexes thing.

[BerkaZerka]

Go ahead and edit that into your resources expanded background anytime you'd like then.

Check!

[Drakilian]

Thought I got 2? But OK. I'll stick with the Combat Reflexes thing.

Not for Wits (your wits is a 4 - you get a specialty for every point you have above 3, so that means that at 4 you get 1 point)