Topic: Forge's vamp who's prob going to be nosferatu (Read 142507 times)

Forge · « **Reply #50 on:** January 05, 2015, 12:31:47 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 05, 2015, 12:27:53 pm

No ghoul old and powerful enough to be a 4pt ally/retainer would be the servant of a Neonate, unless a Methuselah gave you their favourite ghoul. So if you do this you'll have a blood bonded vamp (also a Nosferatu - the backstory I have made up is that your sire embraced both of you, but the other displeased him and so as punishment he took the blood oath to you and serves as your eternal slave.

Works for me, it's always fun to have a second sneaky person guarding your door... Or cave like entrance to the fetid undergroup hole you live in with your favourite pet crocodile ghoul

Drakilian · « **Reply #51 on:** January 05, 2015, 12:33:56 pm »

Oh no, no sneakiness for this guy.

Forge · « **Reply #52 on:** January 05, 2015, 12:35:14 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 05, 2015, 12:33:56 pm

Oh no, no sneakiness for this guy.

With my Obs 5 he will be sneaky regardless MUhAHAHA potence 7 would be nice though... "Slave go slap that guy lightly" puddly of human jelly explodes through a wall...

Drakilian · « **Reply #53 on:** January 05, 2015, 12:37:07 pm »

Yeah, he has a lot of Potence, but that's part of what got him into shit with your sire. You'll see soon, i'll have everything done quickly enough.

Drakilian · « **Reply #54 on:** January 05, 2015, 12:49:48 pm »

Oh - not that your Nosferatu can even have a mortal servant. His contagion would end up killing them.

Forge · « **Reply #55 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:01:37 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 05, 2015, 12:49:48 pm

Oh - not that your Nosferatu can even have a mortal servant. His contagion would end up killing them.

Yup, thought it would be a fun flaw to work with. Can't keep a herd unless its a powerful life mage or werewolf and I don't see either willingly agreeing to being my herd.

On the plus side, ghouling a life mage might be pretty easy due to being invisible right up until I bite them, then force them to heal themselves once ghouled...

Drakilian · « **Reply #56 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:10:27 pm »

Nope, no mages, only vamps and garou. Get those thoughts out of your head.

Drakilian · « **Reply #57 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:12:02 pm »

4pt Ally/Retainer

Andreas Drakovich

Heldric and Andreas were embraced on the same day, by the same sire - a moderately influential Nosferatu who possessed holdings in Hungary. Andreas and Heldric were intended to compete for their sire's attention - the competition was supposed to make them strive to each be more effective childer.

In truth, the result was far from what the sire expected - while Heldric stuck to the typical path of discretion followed by most Nosferatu, Andreas made absolutely no attempt whatsoever to conceal his nature. Consumed by the incredible strength that he gained and trained so lovingly, Andreas tormented the villagers under his sire's control and became such a nuisance that he managed to make the villagers rise up against the sire. While he and his childer were away on business, they burned down the haven, killed their ghouls and drove the Nosferatu off. The sire eventually retook his holdings, but his rage at Andreas did not fade.

Rather than killing his childe, Andreas' sire ripped open his skull and bit off his tongue, rendering him mute. He forced Andreas to take a Blood Oath to Heldric, and, as he was so fond of being a profoundly aggravating and indiscreet ass, he was to never learn any of the arts of Obfuscate. The discipline is unavailable to him, even should Heldric command him to attempt to learn it, as Heldric's sire placed Dominating commands within his mind to stop him from training the power so inherent to the Nosferatu.

Andreas has since taken up conversation with animal companions, finding them to be the only ones he can reliably communicate with. He speaks through them to other Kindred with Animalism.

Andreas also has an epic mastery of Potence, capable of amazing feats of strength.

Due to years of continuously taking Heldric's sickly blood and being in close proximity to the Nosferatu, he has also inherited his Domitor's Contagiousness.

He is notably unstealthy.

Sethaniel · « **Reply #58 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:16:27 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 05, 2015, 12:27:53 pm

No ghoul old and powerful enough to be a 4pt ally/retainer would be the servant of a Neonate, unless a Methuselah gave you their favourite ghoul. So if you do this you'll have a blood bonded vamp (also a Nosferatu - the backstory I have made up is that your sire embraced both of you, but the other displeased him and so as punishment he took the blood oath to you and serves as your eternal slave.

it's like bastian and renzo all over again.

Daedalus · « **Reply #59 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:18:24 pm »

Quote from: Sethaniel on January 05, 2015, 01:16:27 pm

it's like bastian and renzo all over again.

i thought so too

except Renzo was never blood bound.

Forge · « **Reply #60 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:24:35 pm »

Going to be fun.

"There, you are now cloaked in my most powerful abilities to render you invisible to the minds of all other beings. All you must do to close into combat range is walk quietly and not make noise." (All talking via pet albino crocodile)

Bang, crash stomp stomp stomp.

......

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #61 on:** January 05, 2015, 01:34:44 pm »

Steeple: "Next time, try getting him to wear slippers."

Forge · « **Reply #62 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:03:16 pm »

Ok added a basic description and added in detailed info on his particular contagion.

I'll round out backstory soon.

also adding in armour and weapons, might need to check those are done correctly

Forge · « **Reply #63 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:33:33 pm »

For weapons thinking:

ARMING SWORD Strength + 4 wielding difficulty:Normal concealment: Trenchcoat/cloak Minimum Strength 2. Double-edged blade. Wielded one-handed

and two daggers...

Drakilian · « **Reply #64 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:44:41 pm »

Bitch please, have you seen your Resources? You get one dagger, and nothing more.

Forge · « **Reply #65 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:48:02 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 05, 2015, 02:44:41 pm

Bitch please, have you seen your Resources? You get one dagger, and nothing more.

totally forgot about needing a point in resources. I'll either move a point of immediately kill and rob a guard then...

Drakilian · « **Reply #66 on:** January 05, 2015, 02:50:08 pm »

What, you think village guards here have arming swords and nice plate mail armour? This is transylvania dark ages in World of Darkness. YOU are the village guard. You protect your mortals. And if not you, then a bunch of volunteer farmers with pitch forks.

If you want good weapons then poney up the $$$, not getting it any other way.

Though really, with your ghoul, you don't need good weapons. He deals more damage with his bare hands than than you would with a Greatsword.

Forge · « **Reply #67 on:** January 05, 2015, 03:36:16 pm »

I assumed SOME human would have a good shortsword Fine, I'll have to get moneys off Bz. It's more for stabbing people in the back etc.

BerkaZerka · « **Reply #68 on:** January 05, 2015, 06:05:22 pm »

Welcome to my armory young man

Forge · « **Reply #69 on:** January 05, 2015, 07:13:12 pm »

hmm maybe path of the Beast...

Forge · « **Reply #70 on:** January 06, 2015, 02:18:24 pm »

Ok so what can Obs 6 ACTUALLY do.

I understand the mechanics as its very similar to Charlies illusionary version of himself thing but how will it play out.

Heldric casts it and a 'reflection' of himself appears over him. say he got 3 successes on his roll, he then fades out and moves a couple of yards away.

So he is invis but there is a kind of illusion of him that is visible and moves and acts like him.

So does this reflection simply mirror his actions or can he have it move independently? if he spoke would it appear as if the reflection was speaking or would people know instantly what was happening?

Drakilian · « **Reply #71 on:** January 06, 2015, 03:49:15 pm »

I have no idea what power you're talking about, but it sounds like a crappy power. Obfuscate 6 has all of the options presented here, you can pick one of the powers:

http://reference.l2fury.com/index.php/Obfuscate

Not Aman · « **Reply #72 on:** January 06, 2015, 03:51:21 pm »

Quote

Gemini's Mirror

Legend speaks of strange Disciplines, mastered only by the most annuated Kindred, that allow the undead to split themselves in two . Gemini's Mirror doesn't have that level of power, but it does allow the character to appear to be in two places at once - or to move away invisibly while leaving an illusory double behind.
System

The character spends two blood points and rolls Manipulation + Subterfuge, difficulty 7. A mirror image of the character appears several feet from the character. The character may then move away, invoke other Disciplines or take any other action. The image can take any actions the character desires, though controlling both the image and himself in the same turn requires him to split his dice pools. The image remains visible even if the character hides his true self with Obfuscate or other Disciplines. It lasts for the scene, or until the character moves more than 100 feet away from it.

Though animalism is still better. Just think of how much uses we would have of being able to collect ~~pockets of blood~~ animals whereevr we go?

Drakilian · « **Reply #73 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:03:30 pm »

Oh, so this would basically be an illusion that looks and does everything you do without you needing to concentrate on it's actions, you can use different disciplines while it is working and no one will be able to discern your actual location, all they would see would be the illusory version of yourself. There are better ones than that though - Blithe acceptance, Mask of Janus, Mental Maze and Soul Mask all come to mind.

Forge · « **Reply #74 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:20:35 pm »

Yeh, I was trying to work out how good it was, but it falls short...

looking at the others now having gone for lunch at a place here called 'The Copper Pig'. awesome BBQ place, such tasty tasty meat

Drakilian · « **Reply #75 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:27:36 pm »

Mask of Janus would normally only be useful if you were being chased - but because you're a Nosferatu, it's doubly useful since you can majorly Fark someone up by making them wear your ugly-ass mug.

Forge · « **Reply #76 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:50:44 pm »

Ok, going random with this.

But what would it cost to write in, part of his desire to rid himself of his current form lead him to learn from an Gangrel, and so learn Protean 1 and 2?

Drakilian · « **Reply #77 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:55:48 pm »

Protean is extremely particular - you'd have to learn it from someone else. We can have a sidequest for you to get it form someone else but I can't let you start with it unless you take the Additional Discipline merit. There is a very good person to learn it from later in the story though.

Forge · « **Reply #78 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:56:59 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 06, 2015, 04:55:48 pm

Protean is extremely particular - you'd have to learn it from someone else. We can have a sidequest for you to get it form someone else but I can't let you start with it unless you take the Additional Discipline merit. There is a very good person to learn it from later in the story though.

Hmmm ok, Was thinking of aligning him with his path better by letting him grow his own agg damage claws. I'll keep looking at fun things to do..

Drakilian · « **Reply #79 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:02:27 pm »

Oh - and remember that nothing - be it Vicissitude or Protean - will cure a Nosferatu's ugliness.

Not Aman · « **Reply #80 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:02:58 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 06, 2015, 05:02:27 pm

Oh - and remember that nothing - be it Vicissitude or Protean - will cure a Nosferatu's ugliness.

aka super ugly wolf beast

Forge · « **Reply #81 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:07:47 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 06, 2015, 05:02:27 pm

Oh - and remember that nothing - be it Vicissitude or Protean - will cure a Nosferatu's ugliness.

Yeh, the idea is he tried to find a way and blatantly failed. most likely I'll have him never truely accepting his appearance despite using it to his advantage which is why he wants to learn Protean, in the hopes that it will help him, then fail, but still learn to form bone claws etc.

Changed things again though... going brawl instead of melee, fits how I picture him much better, going to have to get a punchblade or retractable bone spike arm...

Forge · « **Reply #82 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:31:11 pm »

Hmmm 'Mummy companion merrit' what abilities would my mummy companion have?

Drakilian · « **Reply #83 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:38:18 pm »

Quote from: Forge on January 06, 2015, 05:31:11 pm

Hmmm 'Mummy companion merrit' what abilities would my mummy companion have?

No.

(I don't want to include many different supernatural types in the game)

Not Aman · « **Reply #84 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:39:01 pm »

Also, the subnet's mummy page hurts the eyes.

Drakilian · « **Reply #85 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:42:11 pm »

You get a mummy companion it's just going to be your alligator wrapped in toilet paper.

Not Aman · « **Reply #86 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:44:22 pm »

ooh, free toilet paper

Forge · « **Reply #87 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:48:50 pm »

Croc + Ghoul + toilet paper = win

Ok, for now dumped into Obs 6. Do I put in brackets what power I chose? (Thinking conceal...)

Drakilian · « **Reply #88 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:52:29 pm »

Quote from: Forge on January 06, 2015, 05:48:50 pm

Croc + Ghoul + toilet paper = win

Ok, for now dumped into Obs 6. Do I put in brackets what power I chose? (Thinking conceal...)

Really? Conceal?

To each their own, I guess.

For the final character sheet i'm making you all make a char sheet thread formated exactly like the one I have for Adam in Whitechapel, so you'll have the power listed there.

Forge · « **Reply #89 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:09:38 pm »

I like the idea of a large building with me and my pet croc sitting in the doorway watching people subconciously avoid it and have no idea H was standing very close to them in the open.

so do abilities over 5 need the specialties chosen?

Drakilian · « **Reply #90 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:13:05 pm »

Abilities and attributes over 4 get specialties.

Only if that building has personal significance to you.

Forge · « **Reply #91 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:19:22 pm »

Quote from: Drakilian on January 06, 2015, 06:13:05 pm

Abilities and attributes over 4 get specialties.

Only if that building has personal significance to you.

like... Heldric's house!

Hmmm can I pick anything for brawl and stealth or are their prescribed choices?

Drakilian · « **Reply #92 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:25:13 pm »

Don't say I didn't warn you before you picked one of the most useless elder disciplines possible.

You can pick out anything.

Forge · « **Reply #93 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:28:47 pm »

like Stealth: Silent movement
or Brawl: Critical strikes (targeting critical blows against important organs, eyes etc.)

So he can move around silently when near ppl and invis, then crush their windpipe and poke their eyes out before they know he is coming.

The other option would be 'Breaking Limbs' to disarm and cripple people...

Drakilian · « **Reply #94 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:43:35 pm »

Well, which is it?

Forge · « **Reply #95 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:46:30 pm »

Hmmm...

I'd say Stealth: Silent movement (The only obvious choice)
Brawl: critical strikes

Drakilian · « **Reply #96 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:48:17 pm »

You can pick two in each.

Forge · « **Reply #97 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:50:34 pm »

Oh awesome.
Stealth: Silent Movement and shadowing
Brawl: Limb breaking and critical strikes

looking into combo disciplines... basically none I could get lol

And choice of level 6 is 'Janus Mask' with every intent of using it to screw with people. It was very nearly the one where I make everything in the area look and sound like me though.

Drakilian · « **Reply #98 on:** January 06, 2015, 06:57:37 pm »

Quote from: Forge on January 06, 2015, 06:50:34 pm

Oh awesome.
Stealth: Silent Movement and shadowing
Brawl: Limb breaking and critical strikes

looking into combo disciplines... basically none I could get lol

And choice of level 6 is 'Janus Mask' with every intent of using it to screw with people. It was very nearly the one where I make everything in the area look and sound like me though.

Yeah, combos are hard when you only have one power

Will do.

Forge · « **Reply #99 on:** January 06, 2015, 07:00:50 pm »

nah, there are just no good nosferatu combos...

obsfucate combos all rely on disciplines I can't use unless I take the merit to get them

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